Payne Pops In...
for what reason?
The following is taken from the rogatory
interview- Leicestershire Police, UK interviewing David Payne, the McCanns
friend who holidayed with them at the time Madeleine vanished.
The officer is asking Payne if the
McCann children, Amelie, Madeleine and Sean acknowledged him when he popped in
on Kate McCann and the three children (Gerry playing tennis) before they all
headed out to dine on the evening Madeleine was reported as missing.
Officer 1485 ”
Did they actually acknowledge you?”
Payne:
”Err oh yeah, you know I’m very sure that if
you’d have asked them, you know that evening or the next day they’d all say ah
yeah, I popped in.
So Sean, Amelie, and Madeleine if
asked either on the evening of 3rd May 2007 or the next day, if ‘Uncle
David’ came a calling, Payne is sure they would all say ‘ah yeah he popped in.’
Was that, ‘popped in’ to
the apartment as in going inside?
Or
‘Popped in’ as in standing on the little area
outside the patio door?
There seems to be some dispute between
Kate McCann and David Payne as to whether Payne ‘Popped in, in’ or whether Payne just ‘popped in’ as
in, he stood outside the patio door?
Rather reminds me of that comedian the
cockney chap when he speaks of going out for the evening – going ‘out, out’ or just popping ‘out!’
Further, Kate McCann disputes the
length of time Payne’s ‘popping in’ lasted.
One says 30 minutes. The other 30 seconds.
I imagine it rather depends whether he ‘popped in, in’ or,
just ‘popped in!
The McCann children, Sean, Amelie and
Madeleine, the evening of 3rd May 2007 or the next day Payne said,
he is sure, would have been able to tell anyone who cared to ask, that indeed
Uncle David had popped in, and presumably they would have been able to say too,
whether, he popped in, or popped in, in?
Now, if we are to believe Kate McCann,
when 3 months later, she said she was surprised when Amelie, said to her ‘I miss my sister’ – surprised, as she, Kate
McCann, said she did not know her daughter Amelie, then almost 2 and half years old could
speak so well!
It has puzzled many as to why Kate and
Gerry McCann did not ask of their twin children, on the night of the 3rd
May, after Madeleine had been removed from the apartment by whomever, if they
had seen or heard anything, if anyone had ‘popped in’ whilst
mummy and daddy had popped out!
Payne tells us they, the McCann
children would have been able to do so, in fact he said they would ALL have
said – ‘ah yeah Uncle
David had popped in.’
Now some us might be thinking, Payne
must have meant Madeleine
would have been able to tell, if asked, if Payne had popped in - as Kate McCann
has led the public to believe the twin children, or at least Amelie (they are
not one, but two persons, so, regarding speech and all else their developmental
stages could have been quite different, one walking before the other, one
talking better than the other) would not have been able to, but Payne said:
‘If they were asked on THAT evening or the NEXT day’
Little Madeleine was not around NEXT
day to answer any questions!
So he must mean all three children
would have been able to do so on the evening of the 3rd, but only
the twins on the ‘next day’ would have been able to verify that he had ‘popped in!
At the time of Madeleine’s mysterious
disappearance the twin children would have limited vocabulary, but, if asked in
a gentle way they may have been able to give a positive or negative answer as
to whether someone had been in the apartment, be that early in the evening
before their parents popped out to dine leaving them alone for the 5th
consecutive night, or afterwards. And, maybe,
just maybe, if that person was known to them they would also have been able to
say Uncle Payne, or whoever called round?
But the twins unusually were in a very
deep sleep that night, what could be described as a comatose condition – they wouldn’t
be able to tell anyone anything about who came and went that night. Convenient? Perhaps!
Were they given something to aid
sleep? Perhaps!
There seems to have been a clear pattern
that week, either one or both twins would cry, waking Madeleine, who in turn
would go to inform her parents of the crying.
Sometimes they were not there, they
were out dining with their holiday companions.
Madeleine too was prone to waking
whether disturbed or not by the crying of her siblings.
It would be fair to say then that it
is most likelythat the child did indeed wake on this night too.
Both parents, Kate and Gerry McCann – regarding the more
open bedroom door- have stated that they thought Madeleine may have
woken up and gone through to their bedroom!
Unless Madeleine was prone to sleep
walking too – then they are saying that there was every possibility that this
is what she had done.
Neither McCann parent immediately
thought something was wrong – both simply thought Madeleine had gone through to
their bedroom! So they tell us!
So, yes, it is highly likely this child
did exactly that – woke and went looking for her parents as was usual for her
to do! As both parents have indicated
she would have done if she woke up!
Their words – not those of crazy people on the internet!
It has then got to be considered that
Dr Goncalo Amaral, the investigation were absolutely correct also to include
this in any theory – that the child had woken up, and then an accident followed
as the little one looked out through a window perhaps, had a fall, when looking
to see if her mummy or daddy was there.
Or, the child opened that patio door left in a position which she could
quite easily have done, and had an accident!
The McCanns say Madeleine was very
articulate for her age. If Madeleine saw
someone she knew in that apartment – someone who should not have been in there –
did they fear she would be able to ‘tell?’
A burglar would not know if the child
was articulate. And besides she would not be able to say much other than a
stranger, a man/woman had come in the apartment. If it was dark, how much could a sleepy eyed
child have taken in?
Burglars plan – and they don’t go
where there are three young children who would be easily disturbed who would
cry! And they certainly would be very
stupid if their plan involved bursting open a shutter, a window, but not just
any shutter or window, the shutter and window of the bedroom the children
slept!
A nonsense!
Andy Redwood suggesting Madeleine
disturbed a burglar is laughable! And to
state as I mentioned in a previous blog that there were several apartments
burgled and entry each time through windows is also nonsense! We know where he was headed with that one –
if through a window – then it suggests – ground floor!
If she had the guy would leave quicker
than he came in!
And what would any burglar expect to
get in the McCann holiday apartment, they had nothing worth taking!
Any burglar with any grey matter, seeing
that they left that patio door unlocked would know instantly – nothing worth
taking, as in material goods – why else would the McCanns have left the door
unlocked, open most likely so that they could slip their fingers through to slide it open as it
had no handle on the outside!
What should have been most precious to
the McCanns – their three children however – were left on display, there for
the picking, the taking – but not by any burglar!
And most unlikely that hoards of
paedophiles were circling the apartment!
They would have been seen by what we are led to believe was a very diligent
holiday group who were checking the children regularly.
It would seem more possible that
whoever removed this child from apartment 5A was someone known to her!
And perhaps Uncle David is right – had
these children, Madeleine, Amelie and Sean been asked – they, or at least
Madeleine would have been able to tell who that ‘someone’ was!
Madeleine was either not able to, did
not have the chance to tell, or was not allowed by someone ‘to tell.’
No matter what became of this child it
is tragic, and it should never have been allowed to happen. Her parents allowed it.
In fact they ‘invited’ it in!
What kind of responsible parents when
their child of almost 4 years old tells them that she and her baby brother were
crying in their absence, once more go out in the evening, leaving the children
alone, and not only alone but leaving a door open?
Doesn’t happen!
The patio door – most probably
introduced to serve their purpose – to cover for what did happen on that evening. To give the couple ‘more options’ or rather to give the imaginary intruder ‘more options’ as McCann said when being interviewed by Piers Morgan.
MORGAN: Do you know that yet? Do you know -- is
there any evidence how this person came in the room?
G.
MCCANN: I mean no doubt there are a NUMBER OF OPTIONS. And --
MORGAN:
No, actual evidence. There's nothing they could find to say this is unequivocally
how this person came in?
G.
MCCANN: No. I mean, it's possible they came through the window. They could have
come through the patio doors, although that was in sight of where we were
dining. So I think that's probably less likely. For all we know, they could
have had a key, you know, lots of
people stayed in that apartment over years to the front door –
How easy for McCanns – they know it is not possible for
someone to have gone through that window.
They know too they could not see the patio door from where they sat in
the covered area of the tapas
restaurant, their backs to the apartment, and they know too, indeed lots of
people stayed in that apartment over the years,
and they didn’t all lose the keys, or keep them – why would
holidaymakers do so? And if for some
strange reason someone did not hand the key back, it would be noted by the
Ocean Club – and if it had been for some dubious reason – that apartment would
have been burgled before the McCanns arrived!
The ease with which they sit there and let this nonsense
drip from their tongues – it is astounding!
So did Payne pop in, or pop in, in?
Did he stay 30 seconds, or 30 minutes?
Would the McCann children all three of them have been able
to tell someone that he had popped in and what he did when he did pop in?
I note in Crime Watch programme, David Payne, Fiona Payne,
and Fiona Payne’s mother only popped in (or up?) in the video – they were not
named but referred to as the remaining members of the party?
Makes one wonder if the Payne’s have popped in to their
local police station at some point – A reason for them not to have been
mentioned by name like the other McCann companions in this little drama?
Payne’s the only ones not to have left the table that
evening – the companions did!
Have Payne’s been removed as suspects – but the others –
the more ‘key players’ are they still ‘up there?’
We must not forget Fiona Payne, her statement to the Leicestershire Police in the UK in reference to that unlocked patio door and what her best friend Kate McCann told her at the dinner table the evening Madeleine was reported as missing. Remember also the McCanns have stated that Madeleine would NOT have been able to exit that door!
Fiona Payne:
“She did, she
brought it up and that she, I mean this is awful in retrospect as well, she
asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the,
the doors unlocked, because she was saying ‘ Is it better that if Madeleine
wakes up she can GET OUT AND FIND US or erm, locking it and, you know, finding
that we’re not there and the door’s locked if she woke up.’
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvnfcl-Zkg
Kate
McCann interview on Late Show:
“And even if they want to say theoretically ‘Oh she (Madeleine) wandered out of the back door of the apartment’ basically saying a three year old has:
Opened the
long curtains, closed them behind her.
Opened the
patio doors, closed them behind her.
Opened the
gate at the top of the stairs, closed it behind her. (A child security
gate)
And, done the same at the
bottom, it’s just not, it’s just not possible!”
END
Do note also Kate McCann by her above statement tells us that the long curtains which draped the patio doors were drawn closed!
This is contradictory to other statements she has made.
***She is also by the above statement confirming that when she arrived at the apartment to do her 10 O'clock check that the:
Gate at the bottom of the stairs was closed.
The child safety gate at top of stairs was closed.
That patio door was closed.
That the long curtains were closed.
So nothing when she arrived to indicate that anyone had gone in through the patio door! ***
Why would any intruder be so 'tidy' at one side of the apartment, if he had used the patio entrance, to bother to make sure all was intact, gates, curtains closed behind him - then at the other side, be so messy and careless - leave a shutter and window wide open - a window he knew if this was planned would be seen by the members of the holiday party when doing their checks?
I think McCanns options are narrowed somewhat by his wife's statement!
So who was telling the truth re the patio door – Kate McCann
or Fiona Payne? Neither? Both telling porkies!
Who was telling the truth about the 'popping' in to
apartment 5A – Kate McCann or David Payne? Both telling porkies!
I think the McCann children were the only ones who could have
if they had been able to – given a truthful account of events.
None of the parents did!
And the Payne's - well they must know that what they have said is not truthful - or at least it contradicts that of the McCann couple - Some conflict going on there now, now that this case has been re-opened by Portuguese Police and all of these matters will be looked at once more?
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30th October 2013