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The Oldfield's & Others

 The Oldfield's & Others


The McCanns as we all know have stated many times in interview that they did not give a second thought to leaving their children alone in the apartment- not a single thought.

They had no concerns whatsoever about doing so.

It just felt so safe to leave their three under 4 year old children alone, and leaving the patio door unlocked too which would allow Madeleine to get out, or an intruder to get in, didn’t cross their minds either as being a dangerous thing to do.

It all just felt so right, so safe.   If it hadn’t felt so safe, so right, if Kate McCann had had to ask herself, question what she was doing, she said she would not then have left her children as she did.

Leaving her three little ones alone night after night, in the unlocked apartment, so alone, so vulnerable, felt right to her!

Even on the morning of 3rd May 2007, when Madeleine told her (according to Kate McCann) that she and her baby brother had been crying in their absence the night before, Kate and Gerry McCann still felt it perfectly okay, perfectly normal, to walk out on the kids.

Even when Gerry McCann checked the apartment at his 9:04 pm check and found the bedroom door where his children slept much wider open, and Madeleine in exactly the same position he had left her, therefore knowing she had not been out of bed – he didn’t bother to investigate how that door came to be more widely open.

Still at this point in the game – McCann doesn’t spare a thought for the safety of his children.

He knows he had left the patio door unlocked.

He knows Madeleine hasn’t stirred, hasn’t been awake out of bed.

He knows then ‘someone’ an intruder has been in that apartment and opened that bedroom door.

Yet McCann does nothing to protect his children?

 

He walks out of that apartment leaving the children more vulnerable than ever, and stands chatting outside to a guy he had met during his daily tennis time – or me time.
 

Why was he not concerned at finding that door more open?

I have asked this question a million times it would seem.

He said it was the door more widely open that had caused him to check, go into the children’s bedroom as opposed to what he would normally do – NOT BOTHER!

So why then did he not try to discover how the door had been more open?

Finding Madeleine asleep in the same position, should then have had McCann scared out of his wits, as someone had obviously then been in the apartment?

Yet it didn’t.  He toddled off back to his mates at the tapas bar.

Now that is not normal.

Since the child’s disappearance both Gerry and Kate McCann spout the usual – ‘if we’d thought it wasn’t safe we’d never have left them.’

 

Funny that, because that is not what the female members of the group say.  According to them Kate McCann was not happy about leaving that patio door unlocked.

 

But that in itself doesn’t make sense.  She is a grown woman, a mother of three, an educated lady, a doctor!

Why on earth would she sit whimpering over dinner with friends announcing to them all what Madeleine had said about waking and crying, and about her concerns over leaving the door unlocked and not get off her ass there and then and go back and secure the place, or better still stay with her youngsters?

Why would she just sit whingeing and whimpering making sure in fact that they ALL knew of Madeleine and Sean having cried and having told her and Gerry about it?

If this happened - there was a reason why Kate McCann did so! Planting a seed comes to mind.

It makes no sense that the McCanns, after being told by Madeleine that they (Madeleine and Sean) had been awake and crying that they still walked out and left the children that very night, and added to which they left the patio door unlocked…so they say!

 

(AND YOU JUST GOTTA ASK – WHY IN HELL WAS THE DOOR EVER LEFT UNLOCKED?  COME ON NOW, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOES THAT, AND WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BELIEVES THAT?) 

 

And why would Kate McCann if she was sitting at that dinner table so concerned for her children, to top the lot, then, allow Matthew Oldfield a guy who didn’t know her kids to go into the apartment and check on them?

We have heard Oldfield himself tell of how he didn’t know the McCann children.

And here is what his wife Rachael Oldfield has to say about how well she/they knew them, which makes it all the more unbelievable that Oldfield would have gone in to that apartment to check on the McCann kids.

 

1578:

 “In respect of Madeleine herself, are you able to describe her character”?


Reply: (Rachael Oldfield)   

 

“Erm I mean she was you know, a very bubbly little girl, erm very cheery, erm very sort of caring, she was very good with er smaller children, erm you know I just remember Grace falling over and sort of Madeleine going to pick her up and help her, erm you know, sort of full of fun, lots of energy, running around, sporty.

1578:

 

 “What about her intelligence”?


Reply:

 

“Erm a bright little girl I think, erm I mean oh, her, I suppose I don’t know her well enough to, to really comment on that but I mean, she was, you know she was sort of very together and certainly acted her age or sort of you know older than her age, she was very sort of self aware, erm”.


1578:

“Do you know if she was aware of stranger danger for example”?


Reply:

 “Yeah I’m sure she would have been, I mean I don’t know personally but erm you know I think”.


1578:

 “To your knowledge, was she the sort of little girl that would have gone with a stranger”?


Reply:

 

“No I don’t, no I don’t think she would have done, no, erm no, I mean, I mean, I don’t, you know I didn’t know Madeleine well enough

 

END

That is exactly what Matthew Oldfield would have been to Madeleine had she woke up and seen him in the apartment - a STRANGER!

 

And that is one of the reasons that it is very difficult to believe that Matthew Oldfield went in to check on the McCann children, something that he himself said he had never done during that week until the night Madeleine vanished and he had not done so, BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW THE MCCANN CHILDREN!
 

Not only did he not know them, NEITHER did his wife Rachael Oldfield!

So why did Kate and Gerry McCann allow him to go into their apartment?

Why did he suddenly decide it was okay to do so, to check children he didn’t know and had made a point of NOT doing throughout that week.

And why did his wife Rachael Oldfield think it was okay – she as a female a mother would not have gone in to check on these kids whom she did not know in the middle of the night in the dark.

Oldfield as in Mrs Resuscitation Rachael Oldfield– also rattles on about just that – resuscitation.  Of how if Madeleine had needed to be resuscitated there were plenty of medics on hand to do just that. 

Makes one wonder if Matthew Oldfield was in that apartment, that it might not have been to check for crying, but for breathing – to resuscitate a child?

 

But back to Kate McCann this woman who said she didn’t spare a thought to it being unsafe to leave her children, and to the comments in this regard made by the three females in their holiday party. 

 

Kate McCann ‘Madeleine’

3rd May 2007

‘By 9 pm we were all seated and had begun ordering drinks, starters and main meals.

WE mentioned to the others what Madeleine had said that morning.
  

Obviously we didn’t want any of our children waking and wondering where we were even for a few minutes, and if the chances of that seemed remote, it was enough of a concern to make us absolutely prompt with our checks on the kids.  That is why Gerry and I were subsequently able to be so accurate about timings.

 

Jane Tanner Rogatory Interview:

 

Officer 4078:   

 “Right, okay.  Now you have had your lunch, is there anything else that you need to say before we move on?”


Reply : (Tanner)

 

 “Erm, I don’t think so. 

 

 I think just to, I was thinking,  one thing I didn’t mention is, at the, I’m not sure when, when abouts in the meal, but I did have a conversation with Kate about, she’d said that she’d, Madeleine had said something strange about  ‘Where were you last night when I woke up’. 

And, as I say, I can’t remember where in the meal she said this, but she did sort of say, oh I thought she said I thought that was a bit odd when, when Kate said, you know, Madeleine obviously she did say ‘Where were you when’, you know, I think she said ‘When Sean and I woke up’, I can’t remember whether it was when two of them woke up. 

So I think Kate was more worried that night, you know, whether leaving them was the, the right thing, or so to speak, so.  So you were saying then about the frequency of the checks.  I was just wondering if that was another reason, you know why maybe the checks were more often”.


4078  

  “Yeah.  How did Kate seem when she mentioned that?”


Reply:

 

 “Fine, she was just sort of a bit, I think, you could see she was just a bit sort of concerned.  I think, because it was sort of like ‘Oh I wonder if she did wake up’. 

I think she thought she hadn’t woken up really, Madeleine just was saying it.  But she did, yeah, you could tell it was, she was a bit sort of more worried, you know, than other, other nights there’d never been anything, but obviously the fact she’d said that, sort of”.


4078    “Put it into mind?”


Reply    “Yeah, yeah”.


4078  

 “And you don’t remember exactly at what point that was said?”


Reply:

 “No, I think it was fairly early on, but, I mean, I don’t know whether it was, erm, I would think it would probably be early on. 

 

I think it was when, I don’t think everybody else was there when she said that, so that would suggest it was early on.  But I can’t, that’s, that’s a recollection, I can’t say for sure”.

 

Fiona Payne Rogatory Interview

 

 

 

 

 

 

1485

“Just going back to your meal, where you say that Kate spoke about, this is probably a little bit out of synch”.

 

Reply

“Yeah”.

 

1485

“But you said that Kate told you about Madeleine waking up?”

 

Reply

“Yeah”

 

1485

“And you couldn’t remember, you didn’t, you weren’t sure whether it was the night before?”

 

Reply

“Yeah”.

 

1485

“Or, you know, the night before that?”

 

Reply

“Yeah”

 

1485

“What were the circumstances regarding her telling you that?”

 

Reply

“She did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying ‘Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can GET OUT and find us or’, erm,‘or locking it and, you know, finding that we’re not there and the door’s locked if she woke up’, because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before.

 

Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. 

 

So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh”.

1485

“So she asked you what your thoughts were regarding locking?”

 

Reply

“Yeah”.

 

1485

“Did she say whether she had locked or?”

 

Reply

“No, that was the point, I think they said they’d left it, well she’d said she’d left it unlocked”.

 

1485

“Left the patio?”

 

Reply

“And she felt a bit nervous about it but Gerry, Gerry had sort of said ‘Oh it will be fine’, you know. 

 

But she was obviously, because it wasn’t something she was quite easy with, that’s the way it came across, you know, but, but Gerry said, you know, ‘It’ll be fine.  It’ll be fine’

 

Because I don’t imagine she would have said anything otherwise if it hadn’t been on her mind. 

 

And the fact was she, she, you know, commented on it being really strange that, that Madeleine had said this about waking up and them not being there and she’d mentioned that in the context of that conversation”.

 

1485

“And can you remember exactly what she said that Madeleine had said?”

 

Reply

“Tut, just words such as, erm, ‘Sean and I woke up and we were crying mummy and where were you’”.

 

1485

“Okay.  Did she say what she said to Madeleine after that?”

 

Reply

“No, I think, it was more, the conversation was more Kate said she was trying to get more out of Madeleine, but as kids are, you know, they sort of move on and she wouldn’t really, she couldn’t really get out of her what had caused her to wake up or, or, erm, you know, whether she’d just woken up anyway and, you know, she never, never got that out of Madeleine”.

 

1485

“And what did you say?”

 

Reply

“She didn’t seem frightened or anything, I mean, that is what Kate did say, you know, it wasn’t something that had frightened Madeleine. 

 

I said, in the context of the holiday, I guess I just said ‘Oh I’m sure they’ll be fine’”.

 

1485

“Right”.

 

Reply

“Much to my regret”.

 

1485

“Was that the early part of, I mean, because you have only got a window of about an hour really, haven’t you, in between, you know, you sitting down and Kate going and raising the alarm?”

 

Reply

“Yeah”.

 

1485

“So”.

 

Reply

“It was fairly early on in that evening”.

 

1485

“Fairly early?”

 

Reply

“Yeah, yeah”.

 

1485

“Could it have been the time that Gerry had gone to do the checking and then subsequently ran into Jez, could it have been around about that time?”

 

Reply

“I couldn’t say, I mean, you know, I’d say it was in the first half of the evening”.

 

1485

“Yeah.  Is there anything else that you can remember about that conversation?”

 

Reply

“No, as I say, it just strikes me, in awful retrospect, that, you know, Kate, I think, had done something that she wasn’t quite happy with, in leaving the doors unlocked. 

 

 And that is something again that she is going to beat herself up about for a long time to come because, you know, you, you like think that you acted on your instincts and I think her instinct was that that was something she wasn’t really happy to do”.

1485

“When the parents, and I know that you said that you subconsciously wasn’t taking that much interest, but when the parents came back on the Thursday, having done their relaying of checking, can you remember anything that anybody said or anybody’s demeanour that was different to how they left?”

 

Reply

“Nothing, nothing, everyone came back, as I say, everyone was in good spirits that night, there was a lot of laughing and joking, there was no change in, in anybody coming back as from when they went”.

 

 

 

Rachael Oldfield Rogatory Interview

 

1578  

 “So you, on the Wednesday evening then, you stayed in the apartment with Grace”?


Reply:

 

“Yeah, yeah.  I remember reading my book on the sofa for a while and then think I, I went to bed but it would have been quite, you know it would have been about nine, cos I’d been up most of the night before, erm and I mean I know that on Thursday night when we sat down at the table, Kate said that to Madeleine and Sean had you know, said they’d been crying on the Wednesday night and asking where erm, they’d said they’d been crying and, and some, you know, this is sort of with hindsight but I you know, I was trying to think whether I’d heard anything but”.


1578 :

“On the Wednesday evening”


Reply:    “Mmm”.


1578:

 

“Who said they’d been crying sorry”?


Reply:

 

“Kate did, when we sat down at the table on the Thursday night, Kate said that erm, Madeleine and Sean had cried, said they’d been crying, erm and you know wondered where she was, or wondered where you know, Mummy and Daddy were, erm I mean this was kind of after Madeleine disappeared, we talked, she mentioned that when we sat at the table on Thursday and then after Madeleine had disappeared, erm McCANN’s said,  ‘oh well I wonder whether on the Wednesday, you know somebody had tried to get in perhaps or had got in and they’d seen something’ erm you know and I was next door in the apartment but I mean I didn’t hear any, well you know, I didn’t hear anything, I could well have been asleep.

 

END

 

One has to ask what was Gerry McCann saying, doing when Kate was making her announcement at the table that evening, of how Sean and Madeleine had cried, of how they had left the patio door unlocked?

 

Not like Gerry, not to add his tuppenceworth or rather not like Gerry to not be in the driving seat…

And I have to say again - Have you ever heard such a ridiculous story as the one told by Kate McCann when after her daughter tells her she and her baby brother were crying when left alone, instead of staying at home she comes up with this - She has told many a tale but this one is a 'killer'


"Obviously we didn’t want any of our children waking and wondering where we were even for a few minutes, and if the chances of that seemed remote, it was enough of a concern to make us absolutely prompt with our checks on the kids.  That is why Gerry and I were subsequently able to be so accurate about timings."



A 'remote chance?'   You gotta laugh at the woman - No 'remote' about it, the kids had already been awake and crying!  


She definitely treats and thinks of her supporters as dumb asses if she thinks even they were taken in by that one!

 

Oh yes, a story has been told by this group, and it is not a truthful one as we can see from their police witness statements, interviews, books, diaries and basically each time they utter a word...the truth of that evening, I believe the world has yet to hear. 

No wonder they fear Dr Goncalo Amaral and the team who first investigated the events of the night the group reported young Madeleine Beth McCann as missing.

 

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16th December 2013

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